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Post is already assigned to parody talk - ignoring all requests by choggie.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Parody Channel manager agrees that this post doesn't belong in Parody. I've moved it to the Gay channel as this is related to gay issues.

12 hour workdays are no excuse, but your apology explains that your comments were intended to cut "straight-to-the-point". Meaning that your point was stated as you feel straight from your gut. If that's how you feel, you should probably reevaluate the importance of something as trivial as sexual preference, and even skin color for that matter. Because, let's face it, they're both equally unimportant when it comes to defining an individual. Anywho, that's your dragon to slay and now you know how we all feel about it. Apology accepted by me, but hopefully you can figure things out.

PS: Maybe you should watch this next time you feel like any thoughts you have, really do matter at all.

Having one gay person you can joke with doesn't mean you can bash an entire population. Plus, in response to your comment, being gay doesn't curse an individual with sterility. Unfortunately, even now, many gay people do not feel comfortable coming to terms with their latent homosexuality and, thus, have children, even well-adjusted children. Even so, many people, including myself, believe families with openly gay parents is a hallmark of modern and tolerant culture.

But I'm sure your apology to the gay-sift community is appreciated.

Dude, I appreciate that you're trying to make half-assed amends, but from what I've read it's still half-assed. I hate it when someone says "I know such-and-such minority, and they don't mind it when I make such-and-such jokes." That does NOT give you a free pass to shit on an entire population segment.

My uncle is gay, and if you were to use those same hateful words that you used to his face then I'd probably clock you. Seriously. I'm not prone to violence, but I'm also not prone to lying down for hateful speech such as yours. To paraphrase what rottenseed said, to let race, religion, or sexual orientation alone define an individual is abhorrent.

I still appreciate that you're willing to come forward and own up to what you said, but you still have a way to go. If this isn't acceptable to you I really don't care, because I'm not the one who blurted out shit against homosexuals in the first place.

The way you said that your comment about how gays are not legit and are losers was "straight-to-the-point" and the fact that you originally tagged this apology as a parody makes me doubt your sincerity. If people hadn't been so vocal about their disapproval, I doubt you would have felt to need to backtrack and apologize for such a bigoted statement.

Like rottenseed and Bleedingsnowman already said, if that's your gut feeling then that's pretty pathetic in the grand scheme of human conflict, and having one gay person who "doesn't seem to mind" your gay jokes doesn't mean you can bash an entire group of people without risk of repercussion. So, apology not accepted. If you want to believe something that is considered immoral and is also factually incorrect, and comment about those beliefs, then that's your decision, but don't expect it, or any subsequent "apology", to go over well with homosexuals and tolerant heterosexuals.

CaptainPlanet420, I won't sit up here and skewer you like the rest. I know when someone is ribbing us, and that appears to be what you're doing. You're going to be labeled the Andy Kaufman of the VideoSift if you keep it up.

I don't care for bigots, personally. I don't like it when someone labels someone with intended malice. I'd love for all of us to coexist without hate in our hearts. But, what a terrible world it would be if all of our good words like queer, fag and homo were taken away from us because we were afraid of bigots using them. Sometimes the use of those words isn't necessarily meant to be hate speech. They're perfectly good words.

Why would you post this Sift Talk in Parody Talk, anyway? I would like to know, seriously. I don't happen to find it a bit funny.

The comment you made in the offending thread seemed nothing but ugly and hateful to me. Why not call your gay boss an illegitimate queer loser? I'm sure that would go over really well. I don't think that boss-if he could see the schmucky comment you made- would look very kindly on it, really. Think about it.

Edit: That said, I also should add that I appreciate your effort at an apology.

Only gay people apologize.

I believe he was being sarcastic in his apology. It's evident when he says things like "I find it a bit queer" and "my straight to-the-point comment" when giving his apology. I also don't believe he ever had a gay boss he called "nina", either. He's pulling all of our legs, hence the parody tag.

^ entirely possible, banky.
his choice of adjectives was obviously no accident,
but maybe he was just trying to be clever.

at any rate, capn, there's no reason to feign acceptance now.
you already made it perfectly clear, what you actually think.

and you're entitled to think whatever the fuck you want, of course.
and we're entitled to laugh, in reply.
at what many of us see as intellectual & sexual insecurity.
and tell you so. but, because we're not asshats, we'll also try to help you.

so, youngling, please think (honestly, with an open mind, and dump the ego)
about the following 3 items:


1. (the biological approach, since it was your primary argument initially)
ok. so, you've managed to think of the easiest reason,
why biology wouldn't favor homo- or bi-sexuality.

congrats. now, stop being intellectually lazy, and use your brain the way you're clearly capable of. tell me 3 reasons why biology would favor bisexuality.

2. (the funny-but-true approach)
if there were anyone, that would do (or pay) *anything*, to un-gayify another human being, that someone would be Dick Cheney.

3. (personal experience)
have you ever been in love? i mean really. because i have, once.
and you'll find most people who have, agree on this: you don't choose, who you fall in love with.

peace @ 4:20
- owen / m15

Please don't be one of those people who say things on the internet that you would never say in public, because this is a public space. If you're prepared to talk like that in public, expect to hurt people and maybe get yourself hurt by someone who's meaner than you are. Maybe you don't care, in which case I recommend Fark.com

Otherwise, your apology is good enough for me, and I respect you for doing so.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if he was trying to be funny in a self-mocking way, or funny in a mocking-others way. Either way I think it's worth it to think he was making fun of himself, because I'd prefer a person to have a bad sense of humor rather than be a pathetic, passive aggressor who isn't funny anyway.

The more I read your comment in that thread, the less I think you had a point to make. Did you have something coherent in mind when you wrote it, other than being condescending? Let's take it apart (I'll leave out the most obvious antagonistic nonsense):

"how does science prove queers are legit?"
First, science doesn't prove anything. Second, legit? What do you even mean by that? Explain.

"because if all you gay people were truly gay, you'd be making no kids"
What are you saying here? That gays are secretly reproducing and building a fabulous army? Honestly, I can't figure out what you mean... clarify. My best guess is that you're going for the 'evolutionary dead-end' argument, which I suppose is an easy place to end up if you can't be bothered thinking about it for a moment.

"Nature dictates."
Nature dictates what exactly? Are you saying that sexuality is exclusively genetic? You're definitely not qualified to make that kind of claim.

I want to spend all your money!

http://www.videosift.com/video/Electric-Six-Gay-Bar

A fabulous army. LOL! That's so gay it's funny.

^ reminds me of izzard's Airborne Transvestite Brigade.

ahh yes. the element of surprise...
with fantasic makeup!

*quality

Awarding CaptainPlanet420 with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by BillOreilly.

>> ^blankfist:
I believe he was being sarcastic in his apology. It's evident when he says things like "I find it a bit queer" and "my straight to-the-point comment" when giving his apology. I also don't believe he ever had a gay boss he called "nina", either. He's pulling all of our legs, hence the parody tag.


Wow I forgot this thread existed...thanks for the quality there, ORly?, even though your avatar is um...ya.

No Mr. Blankfist, I had a boss that I specifically would greet with "Hola Nina!" True story.